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Call me naive, but I was actually hopeful that the eBay auction for the Unauthorized iPod U2 vs. Negativland Special Edition would come to pass without any legal threat. Of course, I’ve been excessively optimistic before. At 4:35 p.m. EST today, the auction was shut down, and eBay sent me an automated email that read:

From: ended@ebay.com
Subject: VeRO NOTICE: eBay Listing(s) Removed - VeRO Program
Date: December 6, 2004 4:35:50 PM EST
To: sera@fhwang.net

Dear Francis Hwang (sera@fhwang.net),

**PLEASE READ THIS IMPORTANT EMAIL REGARDING YOUR LISTING(S)**

We would like to let you know that we removed your listing:

2290680118 Unauthorized iPod U2 vs. Negativland Special Edition

because an intellectual property rights owner notified us, under penalty of
perjury, that your listing infringes the rights owner's copyright,
trademark, or other rights.

We have credited any associated fees to your account.  We have also notified
the bidders that the listing(s) was removed, and that they are not obligated
to complete the transaction.

If you relist this or any other similar items on eBay, your account likely
will be suspended.

If you believe your listing was ended in error, or have questions regarding
the removal of this listing, please contact the intellectual property rights
owner directly at:

Apple Computer, Inc.
copyright@apple.com

eBay is available to answer questions, but since it is the intellectual
property rights owner that requested the removal of your listings, we
encourage you to contact them first.

For more information on the VeRO Program, and a list of rights owner About
Me pages, please visit:

 http://pages.ebay.com/help/confidence/vero-removed-listing.html
 http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/vero-aboutme.html

Thank you for your cooperation.

Regards, 

Customer Support (Trust and Safety Department)
eBay Inc

I put up an archived copy on the site, so people can see what the fuss was all about. And then I sent Apple an email asking them kindly to explain themselves. More to come …

Update: This product is now being offered for auction on my own site. (Updated February 21, 2005)

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First tracked November 15, 2005

… iPod maker is rattling its sabre over a clever reinterpretation of its best-selling U2 model iPod. What the hell is the Reverend talking about? Well, back in December 2004, digital artist Francis Hwang was blocked from selling his "unauthorized" Special-Edition Negativland vs. U2 IPod on eBay's auction site after Apple complained that the satirical iPod violated its copyrights. Never …

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First tracked August 9, 2005

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First tracked April 6, 2005

… edition iPod
Francis Hwang offered a special unauthorized version of the iPod on eBay last December. His version is a parody of the U2 vs. Negativland copyright case. Of course, eBay removed the item at the request of Apple without any consideration of whether the work was protected expression. Apple will provide no explanation or response.
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First tracked March 23, 2005

… without any legal threat. Of course, I've been excessively optimistic before. At 4:35 p.m. EST today, the auction was shut down, and eBay sent me an automated email that read:
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First tracked March 15, 2005

… to go to Downhill Battle, a nonprofit organization devoted to music activism.
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First tracked March 12, 2005

… struggle between those who would confine culture and those who would free it.
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First tracked March 9, 2005

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First tracked March 8, 2005

… violated one of their copyrights or trademarks. An intellectual property attorney quoted in the Wired story about Hwang's auction could see no violation. Hwang blogged the notification from eBay here.
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First tracked March 5, 2005

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First tracked March 2, 2005

… Found What I'm Looking For and related album art (see picture above, here's a MP3 of the Negativland song). Apple didn't find the parody very funny, told eBay the auction violated its intellectual property rights, after which the auction was taken down.
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ethan | 11:32 AM | link | |
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SPECIAL U2 VS. NEGATIVLAND IPOD
Here's the eBay listing.
Here's the inevitable outcome.
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… checking to see if Francis' U2 vs. Negativland ipod sold on ebay, and for how much. Couldn't find the auction on ebay, so I checked out Francis' site and this is what i found.
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First tracked December 8, 2004

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First tracked December 8, 2004

… ネガティヴランドは、知的所有権のシンガィでよ」とゆってたそうてす。この改造アイポドを作た、 フランシス・ウオンのブログに書いてあるそうてす。先日のニュスこつら。ズゥーTVツァーで、勝手にコンテントを使た、U2は、どして?ナニもゆわれねいかったてすかね?
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Lying Media Bastards » I Am a Tremendous Geek
First tracked December 7, 2004

… sort of special U2 model of the device.
So what would be more fitting than to put a fake U2 vs. Negativland iPod for sale on eBay?
Having the iPod company turn around and make legal threats against the prankster, that’s what.
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First tracked December 7, 2004

this plane is definitly crashing (j03) wrote,
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apple blowz.
Negativland vs. U2 iPod shutdown.. :(
http://fhwang.net/blog/45.html
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Blog - Peoplesound
First tracked December 7, 2004

… Negativland book Fair Use, which details the band's legal battles with U2 regarding uncleared samples and copyright.
Further reading: Negativland interview The Edge.
Update - 07/12: Legal intervention from Apple has resulted in the auction being pulled. Bidding had reached $455.
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